Why you should use a different email address for every site | AnonAddy

A very interesting tutorial by one of the latest disposable email services. I would agree with most of its recommendations. While it obviously promotes Anon Addy’s own service, it offers advice that’s relevant across the board.

I’m a great believer in the “one account, one email address” principle. (I take it for granted that everybody here already applies “one account, one password”.) I use Spamex and 33 Mail for that, and recently added Anon Addy to my toolbox.

Anon Addy seems to improve on both, in very useful ways (I’m not affiliated with it).

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because if database got hacked (so hackers can hack other accounts related to same email address) or websites like piple (that i can search ppl by email address) or companies that trying to profile you so yeah spread your data (or in other words do not add your data in one place, try cut them here & there)

Are you using real E-mail or Web-mail when you describe your “one account, one email address” ?

When one signs up for web-mail, doesn’t one need to provide a real email account? Or, for example, does Gmail accept Yahoo email address as legit or vice versa (as exmaples).


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There is no difference between webmail, and something that would be “real email”.

Webmail is just a way to access your email account at your email provider : you use a web browser to that effect.

The other way to access it is through another type of program, which is called an email client. Typically, Microsoft Outlook or Thunderbird.

Gmail accounts at Google, for instance, can be used as webmail, by logging to them through a browser, or through an email client. In the latter case, your email is downloaded and saved to your computer before you can read it.

Email providers need to be compatible with email clients in order to enable that. Technically, they need to provide POP or IMAP access. Most do, except some encrypted email providers, such as Tutanota, because their encryption scheme does not allow POP or IMAP.

My “one account, one email” rule is relevant to any type of account you might open on a website. An account at a web merchant, an online bank, a media site… anything. This includes an account at an email provider, of course.

You don’t necessarily need to provide a previous email address to open an account at an email provider. In fact, you should be free not to provide any.

The only good reason to provide one is to have a recovery address, which can be used for security alerts, password recovery, and the like. But it also increases your risk of being hacked.

Tutanota, for instance, which is an anonymous and encrypted email provider, won’t ask you for an alternate email address. While it’s possible you may provide one if you wish, I’m positive you don’t have to.

I don’t remember whether Google requires you to provide an alternate address. It’s quite possible, given their thirst for personal information.

If that is the case, of course you can provide a Yahoo address – and vice-versa. Any address will do. A few sites (not speaking only of email providers) will refuse addresses from a few email providers. Either because they deem them spammy, or because they are encrypted, or because they offer disposable addresses. These are mostly bad reasons, hindering privacy.

The Anon Addy service above is a different beast : it’s not an email provider, it’s a remailer. It sits between your correspondents and your main email account, and it provides you with an unlimited number of aliases, or “disposable addresses”. This is one of the best ways to implement the “one account, one address rule”.

I did migrate to a catch-all address just a month ago and have one address for each service I use and I love it. it also a lot easier to organize stuff than when I ran 4 different accounts

That’s the other way to do it. Could you explain what it looks like ? I never had my own domain. I have read a lot about catch-all and similar techniques, but I still cannot figure what the results are, from a user interface and workflow view point.

Have you associated your domain with an email provider ? How is it different from using an email client or browser directly ? What do you see on the screen ? What email addresses do you see ? What addresses do your correspondents see ?

I’m not interested in DNS and MX-level explanations. Just the most basic level.

It doesn’t say you are replying to my comment, but clearly, you are. Using Reply helps to keep posts organized.

That said, I thank you for your opinion but disagree as email and webmail are not both the same. It’s why there are two names, two ways, and two different leverls of privacy
Email has been around longer than any HTML based GUI. Email was used before the first web page (you can Google it - look up “pinemail” and/or “Fidonet” - not the phone)

IMLO -

  • Most webmail GUI access is via a browser - the largest home for Stalkers.
  • You won’t see ceo-pepsi@gmail.kom or president123212US@live.kom.
  • Real email permits branding. Most businesses would never use open-ended webmail, and instead control who see their mail via their own email, not webmail.
  • Most spam starts at or is routed via Gmail - and when the spammer gets blocked, they have another dozen or more gmail accounts to burn up.
  • Privacy? - Gmail mail is like wearing underwear with an elastic that has failed. Can’t hide your ass.
  • Zimbra (privacy policy - now is good time to read it) is the favorite of many ISPs as the interface to mail. Zimbra fingerprints webmail because it can. It can’t via real email.
    For your edification, Zimbra also states: (NOTE: The “We” is Zimbra)
  • We collect information about your activity in our Services, which we use to enhance your experience when using our Services. This activity information may include:
    • Terms you use when conducting an online search
    • Videos you watch
    • Views and interactions with content and ads
    • Voice and audio information when you use audio features
    • Purchase activity
    • People with whom you communicate via email or share content
    • Activity on third-party sites and apps that use our Services

Email doesn’t do any of that… provided one is using a recognized client that is known for it’s privacy banner.

Google, Live, Hot, Yahoo, any browser-based mail-reader is going to have similar dystopian controls buried beneath befuddling gobbledygook AKA Privacy Policy - everyone should read them, or at least, understand their rights are zero when signing up.

No one, not one web site has the right to do what WEBmail does. Only via their Terms of Use is it that you grant them the right to rob you of your privacy, and mine when you send me a webmail instead of email.

  • Every time you send me a webmail, be it via Gmail, Yahoo or other webmail you share MY information and contents of the gmail with your Peep! Google scans gmails, analyzes them, records the analysis and adds it to my Google profile - thanks a lot! (YES it does - Google it!)

There is a great many more reasons why one should never to succumb to webmail but the PROs of W-mail are:

  • Anonymity to register in a forum to just to ask 1 question.
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  • to send spam, threats, warnings, illegal porn, push fake subscriptions, move Trojans, Worms and other ilk around, phish, scam, bait … what a respectable blend of reasons they are!

:warning:IMLBAO - there IS a huge difference — E-mail offers a modicum of privacy and W-mail butchers privacy and not only the senders, but recipients (AKA victims) as well.

To say they are the same or no different may be baffling some readers with friends of the ID.


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@ Sharon Chancer

Yes, I was replying to you.

You did not define what “real mail” was, in your opinion, as opposed to “webmail”. It seems you mean “using one’s own domain”. This is no more "real email" than Gmail is “fake mail” or “webmail”.

I have several Gmail accounts. I mostly use them through an email client. Therefore not as webmail.

Many people associate their own domain with a third-party email provider. That provider is very often Gmail. Because Google is stellar at email, notably at spam filtering. But it may be any email provider offering that feature. The very private, very anti-Google Tutanota, for instance. Or Fast Mail. Or even that Anon Addy remailer, which is very much privacy-oriented and open source… Is that “fake” or “real” email ?

Your point seems to berate Google, and others, for their poor privacy. Nobody will say anything to the contrary here. There’s no need to try and pick a fight over the bloody obvious.

You’re wrong to say large, mass-market email providers (which seem to be your definition of “webmail” or “fake mail”) are not used by important people with sensitive accounts. Both Google and Microsoft have implemented special measures to protect such individuals.

One director of the CIA had a Gmail account for his personal email. How do we know ? Because he got hacked by a nobody, a few years ago (not even the Russian secret services), and it made the news…

I bought a domain and pointed it to my mailprovider, and made one mail adress with my domain, which is the real address and which I login with. now I can receive emails for [anything]@domain.tld, and every mail ends up in the same inbox. so now i have one mail address for each service and have a folder for each service. when it comes to send mails, which I almost never do, I can also send from [anything]@domain.tld. the downside to this is that you’ll receive any mail that’s sent to your domain. I almost never use the web interface but there is no difference from a normal address I guess. it’s like a normal email account, but you receive every mail that’s sent to your domain instead of just your exact address

i only manage my mail with fairemail on my phone, which makes it easy to make new identities if I want (to send emails from different addresses).

Do you access your email with a browser, or with an email client ?

What do you see on the screen ? Mail Provider, Inc. ? My Domain, Inc. ?

OK. What ever. Happy days to you
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usually i only use a client named fairemail, sometimes via browser.

i dont understand your second question. when i send an mail with browser i cant send from ‘anything’@domain.tld, but i can send from ‘mail@domain.tld’, where ‘mail’ is the catch-all address which i also login with in the browser. but with fairemail i can chose to send from ‘anything’@domain.tld

Well, actually you started replying to it… my metaphors are not always obvious. :slightly_smiling_face:

Let me see if I understand.

  • You mainly use an email client, so the user interface you see is that of the client.
  • When sending from that client, you can choose any possible address at your domain. For instance, if you want to hold a conversation with Big Corp X, you could tell them your address is BigCorpX@my.domain.com. They could mail you at that address, and you could initiate mail to them from that address as well.
  • Your email addresses cannot use your email provider’s domain. You couldn’t receive mail at BigCorpX@email.provider.com if you wanted to.
  • You benefit from your email provider’s features, such as spam filtering, encryption and possibly others.

Is that correct ?

When accessing your email account through a browser, what do you see ? Something that would be your own site, or the website of your email provider ?

If the latter, is what you see different from what it would if you had no domain of your own, and you just had an email account at that provider ?

Supposing your email provider offered its own alias system (I’m thinking of Tutanota here, associated to a custom domain, but it could be any other one), could you still use it despite the fact you have your own domain ? And in that case, what would the relevant email addresses look like ? Would they still be @your.domain.com ?

this is all correct!

i can use the @email.provider.com also, but i dont use that at all. if i gave that address to someone they could send an email to that address too, but i didnt give it to anyone.

this should all work as normal

yes, when i log in i see my email providers web interface, and it looks exactly the same as if i had a @email.provider.com-address. if u make another alias, that counts as a real address, so u can login with it, which u cannot do with the bigcorpx@your.domain.com. the good thing about this is that the most providers offers just a few aliases/need to pay to get more. with this method u dont need that, u can use how many adresses as u want afaik.

Thank you. It’s much more clear now.

The low number of aliases generally offered by email providers is indeed one of the main reason to use other services to provide them. Either one’s own domain, as you do, or a “disposable email” provider like Anon Addy – unfortunate name, by the way.

Those are not meant to be disposed of, generally. Unless they are abused, ou you don’t need them anymore. On the contrary, they need to be reliable and permanent, just as an ordinary email address.

I put in another category the old services which provided ephemeral addresses, which were meant to be used once, then discarded. Those are largely obsolete in my opinion, although they are still available.

By the way, what email provider do you use ? I’m confused again after reading this:

I use the same exact system as @v5M5ZFTRpwURS9y8. I got fed up a few months back receiving spam, and not knowing who sold my emails, making it incredibly difficult to unsubscribe, going one by one. On top of the benefits of compartmentalization, anonymity, and knowing who sold your data, I realized another benefit the other day. I was changing email providers, and instead of having to change my email at every single website i have an account at and hitting change email I simply pointed my domain at my new email provider and there we go, I seamlessly switched email providers. This would be especially useful of course if for example an email provider got taken down or attacked, or bought out by a more malicious entity, and you had to change your email provider quickly.

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@ajbt200128 that was an amazing one i didnt thought about before! :slight_smile: thanks

How’s Mailbox service ? I read horror stories about them a while ago.

The boss seems knowledgeable, but authoritarian and quirky.

well, i’ve never contacted their support so i cant say much about that, but their mail works fine for me. i dont have anything to complain about. what have u heard?