Why firefox and Tor re the only recomended browsers recomended for desktop this site?

i was looking at the list of recomended browsers and for desktop i saw only firefoxx and Tor
was something happen with the like Brave, waterfoxx. icecate,ETC

another question i would like to ask.
what are the pros and cons of firefoxx multi account conainer.
in comparison to just use a different browser. compartmentalization wise i mean

Brave is basically malware to sell the companies cryptocurrency and ads. Their main investor is Peter Thiel if you need a reason not to trust them. The dude sits on Facebooks board and creates tools for ICE. Also, people forget but when Brave was questioned about their product on Github, they requested to be removed from PTIO because they didn’t want to face scrutiny.

As far as waterfox and others like it, they are far less secure than Firefox and it’s been talked about numerous times on this forum and reddit.


I agree with you that ownership matters. Maybe that should be more heavily weighted when evaluating answers to QtASK (Questions to ask ALL Privacy Services) @danarel ? IMHO, even minority ownership by a questionable individual or company is reason to be concerned.

Firefox: because they good for privacy more than google chrome

Tor: because it help your privacy by adding “VPN” and hide you and it build on firefox because its more good than chrome (for privacy)

they are same as firefox so yeah

for myself i say good but yes as some users said here the only bad thing about it is “BAT” and their new module in ads (again, i see it good but some ppl concerned here)

You can use multi browsers (good) or use multi profiles of firefox about:profiles (not good as multi browsers but still) or use the multi account container as you said (not good as multi profiles but still) but some info will remain the same as your addons info or your setup info so it kinda will help more to fingerprint you

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Brave Browser

From https://old.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/f83jvd/brave_browser/fimc2um/

the Brave guys requested directly to the PTIO team remove Brave from the website.

True, but that was explicitly in response to complaints and/or trolling about Brave as a result of it being listed on privacytools.io. Neither a mid-point in the big picture, nor the entire picture, and the pull request was closed, not merged.

A more relevant point of reference might be https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/pull/1169#issue-308265812 (merged).

Looking back, AFAICT the addition was in response to a 2016 tweet from Yan Zhu (Chief Information Security Officer), who helped to build HTTPS Everywhere.

At a glance: Brave responded positively to both pull requests.

PS from [DELISTED] Discussion: Brave Browser

– Brave alone is in the most private group.

I don’t know how you can say Brave is more private than Firefox :fox_face:

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To avoid possible confusion: I did not say that.

The tech report was published by Professor Douglas Leith at The University of Dublin (Chair of Computer Systems, Trinity College Dublin).

wait. so are saying brave is trust worthy despite not being listed on privacy tools?

Re: https://forum.privacytools.io/t/-/280/30?u=grahamperrin I have not yet read the report in its entirety; plus I’m awaiting a response to a question that I raised elsewhere …

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I have reddit :smiley:
But not the full report :brain:

Because the content is generated by privacy focused people, not security focused people.
The irony is that you have no privacy without decent security.

I am heavily security focused. but there is a balance to be sought after.
take google for example, they have very secure systems, but we cannot just everyone recommend to use google services just because they could be a bit more secure then a smaller hoster.


I have read the full report.

Brave is the most private browser in the study but does not consider the use of BAT (Basic Attention Tokens) adverts to support the browser. Brave phones home the least.
Firefox collects telemetry data collection even when unchecked. I don’t know if turning telemetry to false stops this collection.

I will keep using Firefox.
Brave looks like an option if you don’t mind The BAT advertising.
The others Google Chrome, Apple Safari, Microsoft Edge and Yandex I would avoid.

As far as waterfox and others like it, they are far less secure than Firefox and it’s been talked about numerous times on this forum and reddit

Just because Waterfox is apparently bad at receiving security updates, doesn’t mean others are insecure. Don’t try to spread FUD.

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I have used Pale Moon alot and see no problem with it. There are not many Add-ons mostly because they use XUL and not the Web Extensions.