@davegson I’m not. I’m starting to wonder if you fully grasped the reasoning for my disappointment. It has nothing to do with that an opinion is different than mine. I very much appreciate different viewpoints. I have to be clear about this because I don’t want to be gas-lighted into being someone who is intolerant to other people’s opinions. The issue I have goes far beyond myself or my business, it’s my expert opinion on the topic in general. A topic that seems to be proliferated through the privacy communities, being the #1 rule on r/privacy, that a privacy-based company needs to be open-source. I’m disappointed by seeing large communities make logical mistakes like this that hurt people and businesses trying to help people.
Allow me to reiterate the logical mistake I’m disappointed about, since it appears to have been overlooked or misunderstood in your reply to me. For companies that are holding lots of personal information, open-source is more vulnerable so therefor less private. I care about more than only my business, this is about any business that has completely honest intentions getting improperly filtered out based on an irrational false-indicator. I personally have a duty to my users to protect their privacy which got me turned on to this topic. I’m not against open-source, I love open-source, I have a project on github, I use open-source projects all the time, but for WebCull even a non-tech person can pretty easily understand that going open-source is dangerous for my users on a fundamental level.
“What privacy services have been sold or taken on major investors? We should find out”. That’s a topic that I just recently started researching and is about past open-source businesses/projects who have sold out. I’m totally for being involved in that research and think it’s a super important part of a community like this. The conversation we’re having (though interesting) is on a different level and is about open-source being an indicator of privacy. I do see the relationship those two things have and I could be wrong but I don’t think that was really what this thread was intended for.
Your questions seem to have changed a bit (which I like) because at first, you sent me to a Reddit link that has “Are they open source?” as your first question to know if a company can be considered to be privacy-based according to this community (which again, is really not a good privacy-based question).
As for the business model. I don’t mind answering the questions you’ve asked, they are good questions. I like that you have two separate questions now asking both the model and support for burn rate. I’m not sure if I answered that about my own business so here it is. We are funding it ourselves right now but the expenses are far lower than a cup of coffee per day so it will be a lifetime before we can’t afford this project.
As I said previously, I would not gamble on debt and risk my users’ privacy. It’s against my constitution, so the scenario you laid out cannot happen to me or my business. And if it was about to happen, if let’s say both of us got sick (even though we got free health care here in Canada, say we both die) and we couldn’t afford it and it’s not making money from donations, simple, we’d warn our users that we’re closing and shut the doors, we don’t have massive investments to loose here, this is bootstrapped. There are ways around the problems you’ve mentioned, they are not inevitabilities for people who are aware of them and care to make a change.
And hey, after enough time if people don’t think this is worth donating to and we’re not making money from anything, it’s probably not worth sticking around, though I don’t think it’s the case. Still, we don’t plan on living on donations even if they do work out (we’re bootstrapping so we are hoping donations come in to make things more affordable to us and get more done), we have many plans, awesome plans for financing, which is why we are in this business. Let’s take this up on the awesome Reddit thread you started, which I will reply to soon, giving you more details on our plans. Link here for anyone reading: How do you plan on making money?
I love that you started that Reddit thread btw, I love that you’re talking to me, it’s been great. If you want to send me any material that you think I should read, please do send it over. I’m here to share and learn and meet great people like yourself. Thanks