What is your daily search engine?

lol (same response here! parenting our parents, oh the fun)

@crossroads family.starpage.com is what you seek. see: https://support.startpage.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/1172

then to sort how to redirect maybe hosts will still work for this (especially since they haven’t sorted hosts out yet!)… I do see 3 IPv4 addresses for startpage.com and 3 different ones for family.startpage.com so it “should” work with hosts.
another option may be some sort of small/simple server, or perhaps (in the name of security and privacy) set them up using dnscrypt-proxy w/DoH and even have reasonable sounding excuse/effect of startpage proxy appears to not “chain” well with other proxies? idk, interested to see what you come up with though!

(and still chuckling about it)

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DuckDuckGo, but i really wish they would rename it.

When having a verbal conversation, I cant’ say “you should duckduckgo it” it sounds stupid.

Don’t they already own duck.(io?) , i mean I could probably get away with saying, “you should duck it”.


Startpage and google. I try to use startpage when possible but as a developer I find it hard to get the same fast and consistent results when searching

https://searx.prvcy.eu/, a version of SearX.

It depends. But 99% of my searches are through DuckDuckGo. It just works. And it probably doesn’t track me as much as Google does, so I’m fine with it.

I used to use DDG. But this Discussion led me into trying qwant again.

and I think “you should qwant this” has a much better ring to it.

DuckDuckGo uses Amazon AWS so it can sometimes be a hair faster. But that’s also a reason to use Startpage .com – especially for sensitive searches. You can choose EU only or US only servers.

Great testament to how Startpage .com can dodge blocks. For many people this is a blessing.

I tried to include a link to an article about an activist in Venezuela who uses Anonymous View to get around blocks and view news privately, but this forum doesn’t allow links. Why not?

it does, but may be tied to user ‘trust’ level, saying that after a couple posts or so it is permitted (probably good deterrent against spammers doing massive link dumps on forums)

Thanks! Good to know. I’ll check back in a few days when I should be a more trustworthy person. :wink:

I recall that you work for startpage, in that case, are there any plans to make start page aviable via .onion? You can even make it a fancy one hop service which still gives the user all security and privacy goodies, while giving you better perfomance. My opinion is that having a fast v3 .onion address would be a major reason to switch to startpage.

Thanks for the input. It helps when users write to Startpage with ideas and requests. An email request is like a “vote” because it helps management gauge interest. (I pass along ideas, but they are better documented when users make the request directly.) Here’s the email address: Support@Startpage.com

I use Jive Search. It has a clean, sleek, and fast UI.
DuckDuckGo is good for images, and can be good if Jive Search is down for maininence or something. But generally, I try to stick to free/libre engines only.


I used to say “just duck it” all the time. “Look it up” is another common phrase.
Generally, people recommend the later as it is not provider specific.

That is very good, helps strengthen the network (ant-fingerprinting +blocking).

TOR is generaly very fast. I remember being told that you can tell that somebody hasn’t used TOR in a while if they claim otherwise.

However, .onion addresses added more hopes than I would have preferred.
Same with .i2p engines like Ransack.

Could just be that I’m already running a VPN and don’t always have the fastest WIFI.

Right now I use Searx as my main and DuckDuckGo as a backup in case my main engine fails me. I can’t recommend Startpage to anyone since, despite being privacy-respecting, uses only results from Google, so it cannot do anything to prevent censorship.

Use metasearch engines that aggregate results from multiple engines such as Bing, Yandex, Wikipedia, etc. Don’t rely on a search engine that gets it’s results form only one engine (such as Google or Bing).

YaCy is a good alternative to Searx which makes it even harder to censor the web. MetaGer and Ecosia only use Bing results (MetaGer also uses another search engine but it’s pretty bad and can be disabled). Jive Search is still new but has a lot of potential. SwissCows (the most private search engine that somehow didn’t meet privacytools.io criteria) would be good if it didn’t filter swear words.

Then there’s Mojeek. Actually, they updated their privacy policy recently and removed the “we track pedophiles” exception, but I still don’t trust them. SwissCows not being allowed yet Mojeek somehow being worth a mention is just laughable.

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I use duckduckgo with custom settings, I use post requests instead if get requests. I would consider using Searx, if they decided to add an exception header. To avoid the recaptcha that gives a query error.

What kind of sites did you block? Please paste the hosts file.

I personally only use searx tor services. Some instances sadly have Google as one of their search engines which causes some bugs (due to Google searx hostility) but luckily some instances use Startpage instead of Google to get results which fixes those problems, those are the only instances I use.

In general I usually use Startpage, but I try to run my own Yacy instance when I can.

Yacy can be found here:


StartPage’s future as our recommendation seems a bit unclear, but I am not up-to-date on what has been talked about it in the last few days or if there are conclusions to either direction.

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Thanks will take a look, as I just had a specific issue related to Startpage.

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